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Article: 13503 of comp.protocols.kermit.misc
From: Frank Slootweg <franks@neth.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Need Kermit Diskette for HP-9816 200/300 BASIC Workstation
Date: 4 Jul 2002 12:04:42 GMT
Organization: HP's Dutch Customer Response Center
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Yesterday I wrote:
> Adding to Mikko's reply:
>
> The HP 9816's "unique diskette format" is HP LIF (Logical Interchange
> Format), hence the reference to lifcp (LIF copy). lifcp is mainly
> available on *HP-UX* systems.
>
> So you need *someone* (you?) who has an *HP-UX* (not "unix") system
> *with* a floppy drive. If you have that, then:
[deleted]
I have an HP-UX system with a (1.44MB/720KB) floppy drive, so if I can
help, let me know.
Whoever does the work, I think it is best if:
- The 'target' sends hir *two* HP 9816 format diskettes:
- One with some ASCII and binary files to be used for testing, with
information about these files, i.e. content (for the ASCII one),
sizes in bytes, (if possible) (UNIX) checksums, like "sum",
"sum -r", "cksume", etc..
If possible include (a) file(s) of the same type as the needed
files, so that the right type can be checked when the work is
(being) done.
- One 'empty', but already (HP 9816) formatted, one.
- You send hir the files to be put on the empty diskette. Files should
be in ready-to-use format, i.e. not "hexified". I advice to us a
shar(1) archive, so that transmission/unpacking errors can be
prevented/detected.
- The person doing the work sends both diskettes back to the 'target'.
Note: Coming to think of it, you do not really need an HP-UX system with
a diskette drive. You could also do it with:
- lifinit and lifcp on any system. (Other posters have mentioned that
there are Linux versions as well. And there are DOS versions as well,
at least like lifcp. Do not know if these (DOS) versions can write LIF
archive *files*.)
- Any UNIX/Linux system with a diskette drive of the right type.
You can then lifinit/lifcp stuff to a LIF archive *file* and dd(1) the
LIF archive file to the diskette.
Note 2:
I see that the original problem statement was:
> On behalf of a user who badly needs to get some scientific data into and
> out of an HP 9816 Series 200/300 BASIC workstation.
If this data fits on one diskette (at a time), then perhaps Kermit is
not needed at all, and all data transfer can be done by using HP 9816
format diskettes on the HP 9816 and a lifcp-like program on the source/
target platform. BTW, what *is* the source/target platform (i.e.
hardware?, OS?, diskette drive?, etc.).